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Tag-Management? Conventions for editing and re-tagging?
The tag-list has become awfully cluttered.
But now we received the option to retag without bumping the question. (blessed be he whoever implemented this!)
So the path is cleared to do some major cleanup... but how to do it right?
Good amount of questions per Tag?
How to deal with bad questions?
Comment or no comment?
Karma-hurdle for creating new tags? How high?
When you answer, please keep in mind:
UnityAnswers is meant to be a place to ask questions
UnityAnswers is meant to be a place to find answers
Greetz, Ky.
Major-Edit -3: I transfered the thoughts of this question into an answer
The main purpose for changing a headline is to help people other than the Asker, so I don't think a comment is necessary.
Hmmm... but I just fixed your spelling in the heading of this...
Um, there is some value in having a broad spread of tags that all relate to the 3ds max concept. New users are likely to have spelling mistakes and use slightly unusual ways of describing concepts. I don't believe that having "3dsmax", "3d smax", "3ds max" and so on as tags is "wrong".
@Graham Dunnett: O_o Pleeeease tell me you are kidding!! You are a $$anonymous$$od, you should know about how Tags work, right??
That is the single most important purpose of Tags! That they are few and that they are universal so that they connect all the different spellings in one spot! o_O
So that you can find any one Topic called "3ds max" or "3ds" or "3dmax" or "3d max" or what-not... and each of them have the tag "3dsmax", so if you click that you get ALL the Information you may possibly desire in one spot!
That is the whole genius idea behind the unity-answers-bord! That stuff is easier to find and accessable.
Confused and honestly shocked greetz, $$anonymous$$y.
Answer by SisterKy · Aug 03, 2011 at 07:01 PM
When to retag
- always replace with sth. more general, if Tag is way to specific that anytime soon anyone else will use the same Tag.
Often, these sort of tags are half-sentence-tags which can easily be divided up into more general Topics.
Those can be anything and nothing and are unfit to be tags.
add '-operator' or '-loop' etc for keywords ('as-operator', 'and-operator', 'for-loop', 'switch-case')
But don't force it. Some might have their merit.
Add a co-tag, that will specify the topic further. (for now! until tag-search with && and || - operators is implemented)
e.g.: if there's a Tag "switch", look at the Question and add respectively "switch-case", "switch scenes" or "switch objects".
This way, if someone searches for "some switch" he will find all of them, but then he can refine his search with great ease
e.g. "unity". EVERYTHING here is (should be) about unity!
e.g. "scripting". 70-95% of the questions are - one way or another - about scripting.
Since we currently don't have a propper tag-search with &&- and ||-Operators yet
and the 'scripting'-Tag is not consistently used (so that a search would catch all and the exceptions would pop out)
and it probably never will be used consistently because of the (very appropriate!) limit of 5 Tags per Question
... tags like that are ultimately useless
Greetz, Ky.
Answer by Aldwoni_legacy · Jul 25, 2011 at 07:23 AM
What is the use of the tag " Unity"? I would expect that it is appropriate at each question so isn't it better to delete it everywhere and don't allow users to use it?
I currently see "edited 4 hours ago" on my Answer and expected everybody to see this, but it isn't visible? while Petroz reply is " 5 hours ago", so I changed it after his reply ;)
scripting could still be a useful tag as only 50-95% of questions is about scripting. and Unity3 can become useful as soon as unity4 is out, but Unity is simply too generic. We don't need to kill all tags but most of them can be killed.
Hmm... I might be wrong but I'm rather sure that when I checked, your answer was 4 hours ago, Petroz' was 3.
Answer by SisterKy · Aug 03, 2011 at 07:00 PM
'sweetspot'-amount of elements for a Tag: 20-100
NOTE: This obviously only applies until we get a tag-search-option with &&- and ||-operators!100 elements are about the maximum to sift through manually before turning to on-site- or google-search
(One of the major merit of Tags, opposed to search, is the option to 'sort by most voted')
Comment when I re-tag and/or change the headline?
- pro: people are educated to properly tag themselves.
- pro: new users will be irritated if their Headline suddenly changed. (I know I was very confused and agitated when that happened to me once in the very beginning... so on the one hand, I was happy about the explanation)
- con: the poor guy will get his hopes up, that he got an answer to his question and is both disappointed AND (somewhat) suffers a snub. (that's also the way I felt then.)
- con: depending on his settings, the re-tagger might be spammed with notifications of topics he merely re-tagged.
- major con: age-old topics will show up in the 'active' page even now that we have a 'non-activation-retag'
So short answer:
Comment when retagging a question 'last-activation < 48h'
Never comment when mass-retagging old questions
Karma-hurdle: 200
I am ab-so-fragg-o-lutely pro hurdle!
We currently have over 8100 Tags! That's not healthy...
Don't make it insanely difficult though. Around 200 Karma. That would currently enable 400 Users to create new tags.
(Edited my estimation of sensible karma-hurdle for new tags)
Greetz, Ky.
Answer by SisterKy · Aug 03, 2011 at 07:01 PM
How to retag
what content should the tags reflect?
When the question is opened and the OP does a good job, the tags will reflect the question at first.
If someone finds a poorly-tagged good or new question (something to upvote or age<48h) without good answers, he should support the OP and add Tags that reflect the question.
Older and/or well-answered questions, tag the content of the answers rather than the question.
Usually content of question and answer should be so close that it doesn't matter. (But for bad questions it CAN differ quite much).
Why?
The question is probably abandoned or solved and no longer needs to attract new answers so desperately.
The OP is no longer the primary 'help-target'.
Instead, people searching for similar problems should be supported.
So no matter how stupid or bad or hard to decipher a question may be - if it has a good answer, tag it that people looking for this answer can find it.
Greetz, Ky.
Answer by SisterKy · Aug 03, 2011 at 07:02 PM
How deal with bad questions
Tags we currently have to deal with this:
not-a-question
not-unity-related
off-topic
lost-in-translation
not-answers-material
not-enough-information
spam
write-my-code
fix-my-script
syntax-error
flagged-for-delete
flagged-for-close
duplicated-question
Awful lot, don't you agree? (please comment if I missed any)
Can we reduce them? How do we use them?
I think 'not-a-question', 'not-unity-related' and 'off-topic' should be merged into 'not-answers-material' (it's a neutral, catch-all term).
I'm a bit torn about what to do with lost-in-translation. for the occasional question in portogese or swedish or the request for dutch tutorials... Is UnityAnswers an 'english only' platform per definition so we can catch those with 'not-answers-material' as well? Or does it have to stay?'not-enough-information' Note: this should only be applied if OP has abandoned the question (not active for >7 days)
I think 'spam' should not be a tag. Report it and tag it 'flagged-for-delete'
As annoying as 'write-my-code'-questions are, they sometimes get really cool answers.
Don't let these efforts go to waste by tagging the question with a shun-tag.
If the question is old and has no answer, then it's a case for 'flagged-for-delete' else tag it according to answer'fix-my-script'... either apply the same rules as 'write-my-code' or it's a 'syntax-error'
when it's a syntax-error also add the appropriate error-code as tag (if OP posted it)
When to apply a 'shun'-tag?
If lastActivity > 1 month and no good answer, the above tags REPLACE all other taggs. We want useless questions to show up on the search as little as possible, so we should not leave any content-related tags.
Double-post, no answers: replace all tags wit 'duplicated-question' and 'flagged-for-delete', close or delete, if you can.
Double-post, good answer: add 'duplicated-question' and 'flagged-for-close' or close if you can
asked-a-million-times, new and/or answer: add 'duplicated-question' and 'flagged-for-close' or close if you can; add link
asked-a-million-times, old, no-answer: replace all tags with 'flagged-for-delete'
Greetz, Ky.